Dante’s Inferno, Saddleworth Moor set ablaze: Help us ban driven grouse shooting.

Dante’s Inferno Saddleworth Moor ablaze.

Do these images represent intensive habitat management?

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Ban driven grouse shooting

Grouse shooting for ‘sport’ depends on intensive habitat management

which increases flood risk and greenhouse gas emissions, relies on killing

Foxes, Stoats, Mountain Hares etc in large numbers and often leads to the

deliberate illegal killing of protected birds of prey including Hen Harriers.

Please Sign this petition.

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Government responded

Defra is working with key interested parties to ensure the sustainable management of uplands, balancing environmental and economic benefits, which includes the role of sustainable grouse shooting.

At 100,000 signatures…

At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament

Do you have a newsletter that would publish an article on driven grouse shooting before 20 September? Perhaps a Bird Club? A Natural History Society? A WI group? Whatever…

I’d be happy to provide something in order to spread the word.

What I need from you is:

  • a deadline
  • a word limit
  • information about the audience – how much are they likely to know already?
  • do you want images?

Of course I will be plugging our e-petition to get a debate on driven grouse shooting and I’m likely to mention the book of the e-petition too.

Contact me at mark@markavery.info and we can explore the possibilities.

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18 comments to Dante’s Inferno, Saddleworth Moor set ablaze: Help us ban driven grouse shooting.

  • Bird lover & concerned U.U. customer!

    This latest out of control fire is an absolute tragedy for many ground nesting birds,possibly the odd hen harrier, small mammals, insects, etc. The entire food chain and Ecosystem is taking a massive hit here. The question has to be asked, “Was this started intentionally”?

  • Dan

    Is this a moor managed for grouse shooting?
    Editor’s Comment. Yes Dan, grouse shooting on Saddleworth moor is still undertaken, but the Anti Hunt saboteurs have attempted to disrupt these shoots in the past. http://www.huntsabs.org.uk/index.php/resources/library/92-news/press-releases/417-hunt-saboteurs-association-press-release-august-18th-2012

  • Dan

    Looks like there will be no grouse to shoot this year after that. Why would they burn this time of year when the grouse are sat on eggs?

    Editor’s Comment. There is always a possibility the fire could have been started by discarded glass being heather up by the sun. There is no evidence at the moment of how the fire may have started, no doubt the police forensics will be investigating.

    • Dan

      why then are you using it as ammunition towards the banning of driven grouse shooting when anybody with half a brain knows fine well no keeper would burn heather out of season?

      • Bird lover & concerned U.U. customer!

        Dan, you half brain! On this very site, there were at least 2 lots of video footage of heather being burned in mid-March. Are you saying that for some ground nesting birds up Bowland, this is NOT season? Give over!

        • Dan

          There’ll be a hell of a lot more nesting at the time of the above fire! Do you think the above fire would of been as bad on a managed moor where there are fire breaks in place due to controlled burning?

  • Graham Bailey

    Dear Editor

    That part of the moor is above Dovestones Reservoir. It has not been shot over for many years since it was handed over to the RSPB as a Reserve. Could it be that on a managed moor it would have run into firebreaks, created to prevent such a thing happening. Agree this is a tragic loss of habitat, particularly at this time of year.
    Sympathies too to Jim Bradbury the farmer, who may have lost livestock.

  • ANDY HILTON

    Do some of the morons on here actually think that a professionally managed moor would burn past the burning season, and that this is a controlled cool burn? For gods sake stop and think, establish the facts, and engage your brain before writing, or get your crayons and colouring books out if you need to fill in your time and push your boundaries!
    Editor’s Comment. Andy this is what we stated just after the fire had begun in reply to another comment. There is always a possibility the fire could have been started by discarded glass being heather up by the sun. There is no evidence at the moment of how the fire may have started, no doubt the police forensics will be investigating.

  • Roland Fawcett

    This is a total misrepresentation displaying these images in the context of banning grouse shooting? As you have admitted there is no evidence to suggest how this fire was started. I would suggest that the cause of this fire was completely unrelated to management of the moor. I have witnessed and photographed the management of a moor near me- the burning back is done with a massive amount of skill and care and only small patches of moor are ever done at a time. I regularly visit this area of moor and it is teaming with wildlife- grouse, lapwings, curlew, red kites, buzzards, barn owls and visiting Ospreys to the reservoir.

  • Shaun Freke

    I’ve just found out from the authorities that this blaze was above Dove Stone Reservoir. I’m I right in saying this is a RSPB reserve site?

  • John H

    So you are using a potentially accidental fire to try to suggest it was started as part of a habitat management scheme. Is that not misinformation (some may even call it lying). I am very interested in becoming an Anti Hunt Saboteur, how do I go about it?

    Editor’s Comment. John this is what we stated in reply to another comment a few days ago. There is always a possibility the fire could have been started by discarded glass being heather up by the sun. There is no evidence at the moment of how the fire may have started, no doubt the police forensics will be investigating.

  • Nicki Morley

    This fire was on RSPB land, not on Grouse moor! All a sham, fictitious story. Do not believe this. Whats the point on filling people up with total and utter bull?

    Editor’s Comment. Nicki.this is what we stated a few days ago in reply to another comment. There is always a possibility the fire could have been started by discarded glass being heather up by the sun. There is no evidence at the moment of how the fire may have started, no doubt the police forensics will be investigating.

  • sam

    the grouse moors in the north pennines have so much floora and fauna most of it due to the game keepers so no way would I sign your petition

  • Trapit

    The fire broke out last Thursday the 21st,six days after the end of legal heather burning .I think it likely therefore that it was the result of carelessness ,or a malicious act . The Fire,according to local news reports,was actually at Dove stone which is an RSPB reserve,at least in part.

  • David Maxwell

    The Grouse keepers do such a wonderful job in maintaining the vital habitat for many bird species, Mammals and many more forms of flora and fauna. In looking after Red Grouse the habitat supports so many other rare birds that upon other less important places there wouldn’t be any of these birds.

    Editor’s Comment. David, you make a very valid point, however for some curious reason birds of prey like the hen harrier and peregrine are conspicuously absent from grouse moors.

  • Bird lover & concerned U.U. customer!

    I did not realise that the legal burning can actually be done up until mid-APRIL! As if some ground nesting Bowland birds are not already on eggs by then, or for that matter lambs and other livestock or natural wild game. I am all for a total ban myself, but surely folk should recognise that even the end of February is the start of the season for a species such as the newly wild Eagle Owls. Before anyone prattles on about them being released, once birds have bred in the wild and young have fledged, they are wild birds and suposedly protected by law.

  • WTF is wrong with people, how can this be allowed to happen and is it even legal, effing bastards !